So? If we let considerations of what the Puppies will do influence our behavior, we give them control over us.
There are ongoing discussions of changes which would make the nominating process less gameable; that's probably all that's really necessary. The actual voting process is much less easy to subvert because it's designed to select the finalists with the widest overall support, not just the ones with the most first-place votes. If we can make it harder to stuff the ballot box on the nominations, all of this shit will just fade away because it won't work any more.
What the Puppies think about anything we do is, and should be, completely irrelevant. What we're trying to accomplish is not "make the Puppies understand that they lost" (agreed, an impossible task) but "fix the exploit in the system" -- which is absolutely necessary and, realistically, should have been done long since. But like many other organizations, we didn't think about the security hole until it got hacked.
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Date: 2015-05-12 04:49 pm (UTC)There are ongoing discussions of changes which would make the nominating process less gameable; that's probably all that's really necessary. The actual voting process is much less easy to subvert because it's designed to select the finalists with the widest overall support, not just the ones with the most first-place votes. If we can make it harder to stuff the ballot box on the nominations, all of this shit will just fade away because it won't work any more.
What the Puppies think about anything we do is, and should be, completely irrelevant. What we're trying to accomplish is not "make the Puppies understand that they lost" (agreed, an impossible task) but "fix the exploit in the system" -- which is absolutely necessary and, realistically, should have been done long since. But like many other organizations, we didn't think about the security hole until it got hacked.