Not LYAN, but...
Sep. 26th, 2008 10:02 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
redneckgaijin... just watched the first Presidential debate... more or less with my grandmother.
See, the TV in the den died, and the plug for the extension cord it was on partially melted/vaporized, so both have to be replaced. She watched in the living room, and since the satellite remote controls both the living room TV and my bedroom TV the same thing shows on both.
My thought is that Obama won on substance, but was defensive. McCain sounded more sure and more plausible, but only by lying egregiously. The phrase McCain repeated most was, "Obama just doesn't get it." The phrase Obama repeated most was, "John, that's wrong," in response to lies.
To the uneducated and uncritical, McCain won on emotion and certainty. A thinking person, however, will realize that on many occasions McCain resorted to purely emotional arguments, wholly lacking in factual basis, when even his lies couldn't sustain an argument. On actual substance Obama won hands down.
More to the point, until last week my grandmother was a McCain voter because she believed Obama was a Muslim. She didn't much care for McCain's bouncing around on the economy, though. Tonight clinched it- she thought McCain was being mean to Obama. "All he said, all night long, is that Obammer's an idiot. Obama's a dummy, he don't know nothin'."
She's not an Obama voter- she says she may not vote at all- but she's off the McCain wagon for good. Possibly- I hope- there are a lot of people like her, who prefer the calm, polite, but knowledgable Obama to the vitriolic liar McCain.
See, the TV in the den died, and the plug for the extension cord it was on partially melted/vaporized, so both have to be replaced. She watched in the living room, and since the satellite remote controls both the living room TV and my bedroom TV the same thing shows on both.
My thought is that Obama won on substance, but was defensive. McCain sounded more sure and more plausible, but only by lying egregiously. The phrase McCain repeated most was, "Obama just doesn't get it." The phrase Obama repeated most was, "John, that's wrong," in response to lies.
To the uneducated and uncritical, McCain won on emotion and certainty. A thinking person, however, will realize that on many occasions McCain resorted to purely emotional arguments, wholly lacking in factual basis, when even his lies couldn't sustain an argument. On actual substance Obama won hands down.
More to the point, until last week my grandmother was a McCain voter because she believed Obama was a Muslim. She didn't much care for McCain's bouncing around on the economy, though. Tonight clinched it- she thought McCain was being mean to Obama. "All he said, all night long, is that Obammer's an idiot. Obama's a dummy, he don't know nothin'."
She's not an Obama voter- she says she may not vote at all- but she's off the McCain wagon for good. Possibly- I hope- there are a lot of people like her, who prefer the calm, polite, but knowledgable Obama to the vitriolic liar McCain.
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Date: 2008-09-27 05:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-09-27 06:33 am (UTC)http://www.democracyarsenal.org/2008/09/major-gaffe-mcc.html
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