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(I've already left a complaint with technical support, but I have no expectation of anything coming of it...)

TomTom, Inc.


To Whom It May Concern;

In September 2011 I first heard of an upcoming product from your company- the TomTom GO LIVE Top Gear Edition limited-release satellite navigation unit. This would be a TomTom GO LIVE 1535 unit with content inspired by the British television show, of which I am a fan- including voice recordings by Jeremy Clarkson, the show's lead presenter.

I had been considering the purchase of a GPS unit for my trips for some time prior, and the fact that this was a tie-in to one of my favorite sources of entertainment pushed me over the brink into buying. I almost choked at the $269 price tag, but decided that the combination of map guidance, live traffic warnings, and the massively arrogant voice of Clarkson would justify the price tag. I anxiously waited for the unit to be available, and around October 11 or so, when the "Order Now" link went live on the TomTom website, I not only ordered but plumped for express delivery, expecting that the unit would be delivered in time for a particular trip a little more than a week thence. The whole cost was about $315 after taxes.

And I waited. And I waited. And I waited.

My money was taken post-haste, of course, but when it came to getting some sort of response as to when I could expect shipment, nothing happened. Emails, phone calls, and posts on the TomTom message boards produced no response whatever- not even "we're working on it" or "they're not actually available in the US until X date." Finally, long after the trip I'd hoped to show off the device on had come and gone- and long, LONG after "express shipment" had become a sad, pathetic joke- the device shipped- a MONTH after I'd clicked the button to place my order.

I soon found that my expensive TomTom device was not all it could be.

So far as my rural area was concerned, TomTom had no clue what any of the street numbers were. On the road, points of interest were often placed on the wrong side of the road, in locations where I couldn't access them from the street, or (in one noteworthy case) over a mile away from where they actually were. A multitude of roads and streets that haven't existed for fifty years are retained on the maps. The gas prices listed in the services were never good for anything more than a rough estimate of averages in an area, since the services retained price data months out of date- including data for gas stations that closed YEARS before. All of this, of course, came on top of the two most common sins of GPS systems- incredibly optimistic ETA calculations and the occasional inclusion of absurd detours down tiny side streets in the name of (supposedly) faster routes.

Despite these flaws, the device was useful enough, and Jeremy Clarkson's voice amusing enough, that I used and enjoyed the system for six months... until, on the way home from a trip on Memorial Day 2012, the system began to seriously malfunction.

I should point out that I had, on at least a monthly basis, plugged the device into my computer to download map and system updates. For three months- March, April and May- the device had consistently reported itself up-to-date. I have since learned that TomTom encountered a widespread glitch which caused its devices to lose GPS satellite signal. However, I had not received this news, and thus found out about it only after my device "bricked"- that is, became completely unusable. When I attempted to turn it on after the Memorial Day trip, it would cycle on and off the start-up screen; nothing I did could restore it to function.

After spending over an hour on the phone with a technical support person (mostly re-doing things I'd already looked up on the website and attempted to no effect), I was instructed to send my device to a warehouse in Fort Worth for warranty service. Since the post office did not deliver to this warehouse, I was forced to use UPS- another $25 spent. Within a handful of days the device was turned around- or, rather, my old device was junked and a replacement sent.

The replacement was NOT a TomTom GO LIVE Top Gear edition, but a regular GO LIVE 1535. The Top Gear content had not been added. Clarkson's voice, which I had enjoyed, was not only not loaded, but not available by any means fair or foul. In short, I had NOT been given equivalent value for the device under warranty.

Things got worse. When I tried to get updated maps and programming, it took another hour on the phone with technical support to get the website to accept that the new device belonged with my current MyTomTom account. Having done this, on my next road trip I discovered that TomTom Services had not been activated on the device... and despite having five months to go on the original device's services, the new device's services would require a new $60 fee to activate.

So- having spent not less than $340 thus far on this device, I now have a device which functions on a par only with TomTom's $100 entry-level device- which, in turn, could be supplanted by a non-upgradable, $50 no-name-brand GPS unit.

From beginning to end, I feel taken to the cleaners. I feel like TomTom has abused me as a customer and soaked me for every penny they could grab, providing me substandard or nonexistent customer service in return. I am not a dissatisfied customer: I am an angry, vengeful, disgusted, outraged, infuriated and exasperated customer.

What do I want from you? Well, I would be quite happy if TomTom declared bankruptcy tomorrow, had their assets liquidated, and all their remaining stock of every TomTom device ever bulldozed into a landfill next to the E.T. the Extraterrestrial Atari games, but I don't expect that to happen. I feel I deserve a refund for at least the original purchase price of the device, since I'm still within the warranty of the original unit and do not have, and never expect to have again, what I actually PAID for. Unfortunately, I don't expect that to happen either.

Therefore I'm settling for the satisfaction of telling you this: I have spent my very last dime on TomTom. I will not spend a penny on shipping charges to return my current device- if you want it back, pay my postage. I will not spend a penny on renewing TomTom Services, on downloading a new navigator voice, or any upgrade of any sort for the device I'm currently stuck with. When I replace my current device, the replacement will be anything OTHER than a TomTom. You have hung me, one way or another, for far too much money, and what you have from me is all you will ever have from me.

Furthermore, I intend to make a point of telling anyone and everyone, whenever the subject of satellite navigation comes up, that TomTom's customer support is the worst imaginable, and that your devices are at best only equal with your average generic device. I will detail my bad experiences with your unreliable electronics, money-grasping prices, and lackadaisical service. I will do everything in my power to convince my friends, my colleagues, and my casual acquaintances to take their business elsewhere.

TomTom, you had your chance and you blew it. I don't want another device from you; I don't want promises or excuses or any words from you; the only thing I will accept from you, if you send it, is a check. Otherwise you are dead to me- and good riddance.

Kristan Overstreet
unhappy owner, device #FQ1431H02803 (this is the replacement device; my original was apparently TOP GEAR edition serial number ending in 00064)

Date: 2012-07-09 08:56 pm (UTC)
hugh_mannity: (Default)
From: [personal profile] hugh_mannity
Wow.
That makes the built-in nav that came with the Rolling Living Room a bargain. It has the original 2006 DVD still in it (in 2010!) and I updated it to the 2011 version for a mere $200. I'm skipping the 2012 update and will (probably) pick up the 2013 one because there are some major changes to my local roads.

The biggest problem I had was finding the damned DVD drive to change discs. According to the manual, it's under the front passenger seat. Except the manual was written for the UK version and only partially translated for the US version and while they changed the spellings, they forgot that in the US we drive on the other side of the road...

Date: 2012-07-09 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] herlander_refugee
You've pretty much described the experience we had with TWO TomTom devices...one for the husband, one for the son.

We have better luck with two FREE programs loaded onto our phones than we had with these costly bits of crap.

Date: 2012-07-10 03:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] transmitte
Damn. I've never had a reason to buy a GPS unit before and now this just galvanizes that. I have used the GPS on my smart phone and it surprised me by being pretty damn on target, but I'm an old school navigator dealing with those old school paper maps and such.

Is there any chance you could do a small claims court bit with them? That is some garbage to lose over 300 bucks on this kinda customer dissatisfaction and treatment, and this coming from a tech desk/customer support person.

Date: 2012-07-10 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peachtales.livejournal.com
That's a nice mess. Makes me happy I've never bought anything tomtom.

Date: 2012-07-10 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doctorpinkerton.livejournal.com
Couldn't do without my TomTom's - though it's worth noting that I practically NEVER plug them in for updates, and now that I've updated the bigger of the two, it has started randomly glitching its speech, Max-Headroom like, and freezing for several seconds at random moments...

Date: 2012-07-10 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morphyloon.livejournal.com
Wow, can't say I've ever had that much trouble. Although my XL seems convinced my "home" street is one street North-- easy enough to fix or ignore. As for glitching, never seen it happen. I do wish I could cram a SD card in it, but maybe that's how they keep me from hacking it.

I have an older Mio (2003?) that's very hackable; jailbroke it to the Windows CE desktop and had Modplayer running on it at one point (the WinCE mp3 players I could find were buggy or just crap). Had to stop using it because the maps would be 10 years out of date by now and an update would cost more than a new unit. Wish I could still use it, had a SD slot, the fastest useable signal I've seen in any GPS ever, and even an external antenna port. Not too shabby for a $90 Korean import, back when you couldn't touch a TomTom/Garman for under $200.

...ever notice that? The map updates for a year cost almost as much as a new unit?

(ink for inkjet printers)
(AV updates for your AV software)
(gas for the car)

Date: 2012-07-11 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redneckgaijin.livejournal.com
Yes, I sent the letter along to the Consumerist. I go there about three times a week or so, and I sent the letter and asked if they could find out where I could send it. I haven't got a go-to address for TomTom out of them, but for the extra don't-buy-their-crap exposure, I'm grateful.

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